Won´t do more than 5500 rpm ???

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  • sorens2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2004
    • 241
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Won´t do more than 5500 rpm ???

    Hi guys

    When I´m running full boost (1.8 bar) I can´t get over 5500 rpm.
    If running only 1 bar there is no problems.
    Sounds like the ignitions cutting the plugs.
    I´ve just renewed the plugs. Didn´t help.
    Dizzy is 30000 km old.
    Any ideas ???

    Søren S2
    Audi RS4 LO550

    BTG 8:08

    www.fredslunds.dk
  • quattronutter
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2005
    • 690
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    ht leads breaking down?or dizzy on its way out?maybe a boost leak when running higher boost...

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    • Mihnea
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1288
      • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

      #3
      Intake hose from MAF to turbo collapsing IMHO, BTDT on RS2'd 3Bs quite a few times...

      To make sure that's your problem, check your boost at 5500 RPM where the car cuts, and let us know what boost is doing. Is it staying steady?

      Also, what setup are you using? What chips? How are you controlling boost?

      Cheers,

      Mihnea
      '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

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      • sorens2
        S2Forum Addict
        • Feb 2004
        • 241
        • Country: Denmark

        #4
        Boost still 1.8 when it cuts. GT30R turbo. Remap and all. It has been running with this setup for a long time. Boost is controlled by N75.
        It doesn´t just cut once. The problem stays and no power. And it is every time.

        Søren S2
        Audi RS4 LO550

        BTG 8:08

        www.fredslunds.dk

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        • Mihnea
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1288
          • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

          #5
          Have you tried to run high octane fuel to see if the problem goes away? Pinging could be your issue... who mapped the car? what does the tuner say? That's the sort of thing I'd have him look at, rather than ask on a forum, because I do think it's a mapping problem IMHO...

          HTH,

          Mihnea
          '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

          www.MRCTuning.com
          info@MRCTuning.com
          Workshop Directions

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          • Graham
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            • Jul 2003
            • 1622
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

            #6
            Asking on a forum is a good idea, peoples experiences answer most problems on this enthusiasts forum, it might not have a mapping problem if the car was running ok before, why should it change?? With a map it either works well or doesnt work well, if it was a mapping problem wont he have had the problem since day one of it being mapped?. Could it be fuel related?? Mine broke its speed record 1 month ago, since then i have half baked a turbo and lost alot of top end performance. This was probably due to my knackered fuel pump. I am far from being an expert on the electronics of these cars, but as far as i can see it cant be that complex being 12 year old technology and a 256 bit ecu. Its just the hardware to access this technology is expensive.
            Ask away, you dont get no where if you dont ask.
            graham
            Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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            • audiman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Jul 2003
              • 4827
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Broken HT leads wont cause it to stop revving and pulling after 5500rpm, you will notice it running on 4 cyls for example and this will cause it to 'slow' down. Sounds like a problem that has developed recently. It might be worth putting it on a rolling road to see if you can see the intake hose collapsing under high boost. I know that the 1.8T lumps suffer badly with this problem when tuned.

              Have also seen it before on a URq and that was stock.

              Do you have an EGT gauge? Do the readings go mad when you get this problem??
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              Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
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              • Mihnea
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2003
                • 1288
                • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                #8
                Sorry Graham, I actually got him wrong and I thought the problem had always been present... I didn't mean by any means that it's useless to ask on a forum, but usually it could be more helpful to ask the tuner directly... Now I have no clue how the car was mapped and what was actually done to it.

                As for the ECU, it's not that complicated, but it still is... The hardware to get into it is not worth much, but the time and money spent on understanding it is definitely not for the faint-hearted/walleted

                HTH,

                Mihnea

                Originally posted by Graham
                Asking on a forum is a good idea, peoples experiences answer most problems on this enthusiasts forum, it might not have a mapping problem if the car was running ok before, why should it change?? With a map it either works well or doesnt work well, if it was a mapping problem wont he have had the problem since day one of it being mapped?. Could it be fuel related?? Mine broke its speed record 1 month ago, since then i have half baked a turbo and lost alot of top end performance. This was probably due to my knackered fuel pump. I am far from being an expert on the electronics of these cars, but as far as i can see it cant be that complex being 12 year old technology and a 256 bit ecu. Its just the hardware to access this technology is expensive.
                Ask away, you dont get no where if you dont ask.
                graham
                '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

                www.MRCTuning.com
                info@MRCTuning.com
                Workshop Directions

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                • maRS2
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 366
                  • Home: France Current: Thailand

                  #9
                  Do the metal ring to prevent colapsing seat properly in your turbo to MAF hoses.

                  Mine went out after a pressure test and the car had very bad response when the boost buils up specialy when every thing hot
                  RS2 chip by mihnea,PKM short IM, forge dump valve, 3" custom stainless exhaust, 18"X8" Porsche 996 rims, conti contact 245/35 Front 225/40 Rear, QR sport top mount, Powerflex bushes, aloy sub frame bushes, neuspeed 19mm RARB,Hard tranny mount, V8 torsen on RS2

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                  • sorens2
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 241
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #10
                    Hi again

                    I don´t think I have an intake problem... :-)
                    I run the higest octane here (98) and I asked the tuner if there was any pinging or even close. There isn´t. It runs in the "perfect map" all the time.
                    Intake temp is 13 degrees celcius.
                    It doesn´t really stop reving. It continues up towards redline, but it is VERY slow and no power. Stuttering I think it is called.
                    Thank´s a lot for your time to help.

                    Søren S2

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                    BTG 8:08

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                    • maRS2
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 366
                      • Home: France Current: Thailand

                      #11
                      sell tak

                      Danish mother but French father sorry for spelling only can speak it
                      RS2 chip by mihnea,PKM short IM, forge dump valve, 3" custom stainless exhaust, 18"X8" Porsche 996 rims, conti contact 245/35 Front 225/40 Rear, QR sport top mount, Powerflex bushes, aloy sub frame bushes, neuspeed 19mm RARB,Hard tranny mount, V8 torsen on RS2

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                      • sorens2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 241
                        • Country: Denmark

                        #12
                        BTW

                        Could a 0.8 mm gap on the plugs have somrthing to say.
                        Always ran it 0.8 but....

                        Søren S2
                        Audi RS4 LO550

                        BTG 8:08

                        www.fredslunds.dk

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                        • audiman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4827
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I forgot you had that intake setup !!

                          It isnt that then.. maybe you do have a plug lead broken that only plays up under high load. I had that same problem about a month ago. It turned out to be no.5 plug lead. Just try gently pulling the wire out of the rubber boot and see if they come out.
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                          Audi UR Quattro
                          Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                          Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
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                          • audiman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4827
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Whats the stock gap on the Bosch plugs then?? I have heard of ppl making the gap smaller so that it doesnt get blown out, but i dont have any problems on std plugs at 2 bar
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                            Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                            Audi UR Quattro
                            Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                            Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                            Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                            • sorens2
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 241
                              • Country: Denmark

                              #15
                              They are 0.8 mm
                              Running about 450 bhp @ 1.8 bar
                              I´ll check the leads then

                              Søren S2
                              Audi RS4 LO550

                              BTG 8:08

                              www.fredslunds.dk

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